A drag queen, a Karen, a black woman, and an immigrant walk into a bar…

…and come out with a podcast about spiritual deconstruction.

Apostasy is scary. Those who have defected from the creeds and communities that raised us know: it ain’t easy. There’s a lot at stake. Friendships. Family ties. Mental health. A sense of belonging.

This is a podcast about how we move on from bad religion with fewer casualties. Your four fearless hosts share the mic and introduce you to new guests with each episode—godless heathens and heretics, believers in recovery, doubters doing their best. We dive into our experiences of spiritual deconstruction. And we share what’s on the other side: ways we’ve found to care for our mind, body, and spirit without the threat of eternal damnation hanging over our heads.

If you’re looking for spiritual community without the shame shit, you’ve found it. Here’s to the heathens.